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Idealist… Realist…

// Blog // Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 11:53 am // 65 comments

A scene from Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions…

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Ramza Beoulve: Wiegraf! You live?

Wiegraf Folles: I have lived for this, Ramza. How long has it been since we last met?

Ramza Beoulve: Then you were a warrior who fought to make your dream reality. Now you are only a thrall of the Church.

Wiegraf Folles: What troubled sleep have you known, to speak of my dreams? No matter how sweet, a dream left unrealized must fade into day. Only with power can dreams be made real! I see the truth of it now. What good, dreams, without that power? You think me a thrall? So be it! Your envenomed words succour me, for when at last you yield – as you must – their poison will consume you!

Ramza Beoulve: I pity you, Wiegraf. Even as a man of broken dreams, you might still have been remembered fondly. Your ideas lifted the people, showed them the cracks in the age-old facade of the aristocracy. You acted on your convictions, and so ennobled those actions! But what would the people think now? What would Milleuda and your fallen friends think of this barter you’ve struck? Dreams built on borrowed stone are defiled before they are made!

Wiegraf Folles: What have you done that did not rely on the labours of others? From birth you have wanted for nothing! You can not know what it is to live the meager life we do. Reason may trick you to believe you do, but your heart can never know! Harsh is the world in which we live. Harsher still than you can imagine. You have neither right nor reason to pour scorn on me!

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65 Responses

  1. #1 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 11:57 From INDONESIA

    PERTAMAX? No more, please. :D

  2. #2 manusiasuper Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:01 From INDONESIA

    Game mulu dari kemaren....

    *Ngeloyor pergi nyari minyak tanah*

  3. #3 Ataner Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:02 From INDONESIA

    apaan sih? - _ -

    Ah, kenapa tidak bikin pakai bahasa Indo saja? Saya malas baca Inggris..

    Do have any work to do?

    Keduax??? :D, atau Ketigaxx?? Atau Keempax?

  4. #4 tikabanget™ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:05 From INDONESIA

    :|
    transtool, pliz.. :|

  5. #5 Cynanthia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:06 From INDONESIA

    Heran, dari kemarin Mas Gun bahas mengenai game melulu. Apa ini terkait dengan tulisan sebelumnya? :?

  6. #6 goop Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:28 From INDONESIA

    saya bersyukur tidak jadi melenggang begitu saja, postingan yang membacanya perlu sambil membuka kamus online dan bertanya kepada penulisnya, karena kamus online pun nyerah.
    dan akhirnya, makasih roze... karena

    Only with power can dreams be made real!

  7. #7 Kopral Geddoe Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 12:37 From INDONESIA

    Haruhi no Kami... ^:)^

    ...ups, salah topik. :mrgreen:

  8. #8 Hoek Soegirang Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 13:03 From INDONESIA

    "Reason may trick you to believe you do, but your heart can never know! Harsh is the world in which we live. Harsher still than you can imagine. You have neither right nor reason to pour scorn on me!"
    *merinding*
    :mrgreen:

  9. #9 Mardies Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 13:10 From INDONESIA

    Woy! Kok pada ngomongin Final Fantasy sih? Yang lain donk! (Soale aku sing paling ra nyambung ning topik iki)

  10. #10 mardun Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 13:33 From INDONESIA

    Ini mengingatkan saya kenapa dulu saya begitu ngotot main FF VI.....

    sebab begitu banyak cutscene yang menarik di dalamnya........

    jadi ingin main......... *mencoba menangis* bagi scrinsut adegannya dong :D

  11. #11 morishige_turun_gunung Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 13:52 From INDONESIA

    ya, ya, ya,,,
    "salam kenal!"
    *kabur

  12. #12 leksa Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:04 From INDONESIA

    WOIII.... ngegame molooo..
    UASSS dodolllzz...

    kaboor abis teriakk..

  13. #13 Sawali Tuhusetya Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:17 From INDONESIA

    walah mas gun, kalok postingan pakek bhs linggis terpaksa mengerutkan jidat berkali-kali. enaknya pake juru komennya mas guna ajah. BTW, postingan berikutnya masih membahas game, Tuhan dam agama, Maa Gun? *halah*

  14. #14 almascatie Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:18 From INDONESIA

    Ramza Beoulve: Wiegraf! You live?

    lha yang diajak ngomong sapa?
    :lol:
    *ngertinya itu doang*
    kaburrrrrrr*

  15. #15 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:36 From INDONESIA

    @ manusiasuper: Suka-suka. :lol:
    Di BJM minyak tanah langka kah?

    @ Ataner: Heheheee... Kalau diterjemahkan ntar ga kerasa gregetnya lho. ;)

    @ tikabanget™: Transtool itu sesat! :twisted:

    @ Cynanthia: Lagi happy lolos ujian. :lol:
    Ndak ada hubungannya lah. :mrgreen:
    Wong ini bahas "mimpi".

    @ goop: Ahahaaa... Power...Am I looking for power? :P

    @ Kopral Geddoe: ...

    @ Hoek Soegirang: Agree. Wiegraf adalah tokoh yang sangat luarrrr biasaaaa...

    @ Mardies: Saya ndak ngomongin gamenya, tapi dialognya~

    @ mardun: Susah nangkep skrinsyut di PSP. :lol:

    @ morishige_turun_gunung: Asyem... :lol:

    @ leksa: UAN ntar tanggal 11 lagi, tanggal 7 sudah. :lol:

    @ Sawali Tuhusetya: Ahahaaa... Masih mending ketimbang entrynya si Lemon pak. :mrgreen:
    Baidewei ini ndak ada hubungannya sama Tuhan atau agama. :P

  16. #16 grace Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:43 From MALAYSIA

    shan in = game+hentai+kontroversi agama
    ada element lain yang kurang, shan in?
    :mrgreen:

  17. #17 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 14:47 From INDONESIA

    @ almascatie: Bisa aja hantu, kan game. :lol:

    @ grace: Isu rasial, narsisisme. :mrgreen:
    Coret itu hentai. :lol:

  18. #18 StreetPunk Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:05 From UNITED STATES

    Another game, eh? So, from the dialogue, Wiegraf is the good one?

  19. #19 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:08 From INDONESIA

    @ StreetPunk: *kecanduan main FFT: TWotL saat UAS*
    Hohohooo... Wiegraf itu antagonis yang nasibnya tragis. Awalnya idealis namun akhirnya menyerah pada kekuasaan dan untuk mewujudkan mimpinya ia rela menjadi "Dog of the Church". ;)

  20. #20 Uchiha Miyu Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:38 From QATAR

    Halah-halah...

    Btw, FF Tactics ini pake konsol apa?

  21. #21 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:40 From INDONESIA

    @ Uchiha Miyu: FFT di PSOne. Ini FFT: TWotL di PSP. :P

  22. #22 grace Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:56 From MALAYSIA

    Coret itu hentai

    yakin, nih?
    ga nyesel? :lol:

  23. #23 aRuL Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 15:59 From INDONESIA

    iyah diartiin aja, supaya lebih paham :D *lagi malas artiin pake indonesia*
    btw ini jadi trilogi nih postingannya?

  24. #24 rozenesia Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:03 From INDONESIA

    @ grace: Caya kan macih kecil.. :oops:

    @ aRuL: Ndak greget ntar ucapannya Wiegraf. :mrgreen:

    Bukan. Bukan trilogi. :?

    Haruhuism >> Anime/manga; konsumsi otaku

    Agama, Tuhan, dan Parodi Permainan >> Game; Kontroversial; Sensor

    Idealist... Realist... >> Game; Kutipan; Realistis/Idealis

    Semuanya beda~

  25. #25 cK Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:26 From INDONESIA

    taruhan, 68% dari yang komen nggak baca postingan ini terlebih dahulu... :mrgreen:

  26. #26 Xaliber von Reginhild Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:28 From INDONESIA

    Saya baru saja melewati scene ini... :mrgreen:

    Kalau saya melihat fenomena idealis-realis ini terwujud pada remaja-dewasa. :? Sebagian besar.
    Entah kenapa nyambungnya ke kemajuan Indonesia... mungkin saya terlalu percaya pada konsep 'kebutuhan akan tumbal'. :twisted:

  27. #27 Xaliber von Reginhild Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:29 From INDONESIA

    "Tumbal" dalam arti lain maksudnya... saya tak bisa menemukan istilah lain yang lebih tepat. :| "Pahlawan" kesannya terlalu hiperbolik.

  28. #28 Praditya Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:30 From INDONESIA

    Waduh bahasa linggis... :P

    @cK:
    Hi Roy (tm) :lol:

  29. #29 Xaliber von Reginhild Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:32 From INDONESIA

    ...dan Wiegraf memang karakter yang keren. :mrgreen: Tapi sayang akhirnya dia hanya jadi alat; seandainya dia bisa memperalat yang menjadikan dia alat (seperti salah satu teori yang membahas hubungan Soeharto - PKI), mungkin bisa lebih baik. :?

    Sayang bajunya pas jadi Knights Templar jelek. :|

    *hettrik kah?*

  30. #30 Uchiha Miyu Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 16:34 From QATAR

    "@ grace: Caya kan macih kecil.. "

    Kecil badan...

  31. #31 shinobigatakutmati Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 18:28 From HONG KONG

    ye................. katanya ujian!!!! kok maen mulu... kayak Shino aja huehehe :P

  32. #32 fauzansigma Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 18:34 From INDONESIA

    hoby banget game yah? tp keren nih, bisa memaknai game..

  33. #33 Praditya Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 19:07 From INDONESIA

    @xaliber:
    Sayang skali.. :lol:

  34. #34 celo =3 Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 19:22 From INDONESIA

    taruhan, 68% dari yang komen nggak baca postingan ini terlebih dahulu…

    I bet it's higher than that :lol:

    about Wiegraf...??? Danke, Ik ben dravieg... :lol:

  35. #35 Xaliber von Reginhild Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 20:13 From INDONESIA

    @Praditya:
    Yah... kesempatan selalu datang lain kali. :P

  36. #36 dimasu Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 23:57 From REPUBLIC OF KOREA

    From birth you have wanted for nothing! You can not know what it is to live the meager life we do. Reason may trick you to believe you do, but your heart can never know! Harsh is the world in which we live. Harsher still than you can imagine.

    Kalo memikirkan kalimat2 ini..tak kan ketemu ujungnya @_@

    i'm just a little tiny human...

  37. #37 sigid Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 1:10 From INDONESIA

    Hiks :cry: , ndak pernah maen final fantasy.

  38. #38 tukangkopi Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 1:10 From INDONESIA

    I have lived for this, Ramza.

    "this" ini merujuk ke apa ya?

    *mencoba memahami isi dialog*

  39. #39 ekowanz Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 2:22 From INDONESIA

    waduuuh ga mudeng blasssssssssssss........

  40. #40 Zazi Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 2:26 From INDONESIA

    ...

    kalo postingan ini saya ndak ngerti :| *bingung*
    ndak maen FF tactics sih.. :|

  41. #41 eMina Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 2:39 From INDONESIA

    euh..
    '>_>
    '<_<

    kok banner saya yang buatan Lee ga tampil lagi ya.. :?
    apa sudah dihapus sumbernya.. :?

    *pulang*

  42. #42 pink Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 3:30 From INDONESIA

    doyan final fantasy iiah, btw met kenal. blognya keren abis...

  43. #43 brainstorm Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 3:54 From INDONESIA

    ada hentai ga?? :P

  44. #44 annots Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 4:18 From INDONESIA

    Masih inget dengan jadwal ujian kan Gun? Kok malah ngegame mulu dari kamarin :p

  45. #45 sstkr Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 4:54 From INDONESIA

    dialognya sekalian ma movie nya dong gun :D

  46. #46 pututik Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 5:09 From INDONESIA

    met kenal, baca2 artikelnya dulu :P

  47. #47 hildalexander Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 6:11 From INDONESIA

    trying hard to get its written above....still i didnt get it....Oom....we're just human kind. No more game pleaseeeeee

    *balik kanan sambil nonton band of brothers*

  48. #48 Nazieb Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 6:35 From INDONESIA

    Ga mudeng :mrgreen:

  49. #49 suprie Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 7:04 From UNITED STATES

    Dreams built on borrowed stone are defiled before they are made!

    Mmm... keren nih , saya suka dengan kutipan ini ... hahahaaha

  50. #50 suprie Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 7:30 From UNITED STATES

    Dreams built on borrowed stone are defiled before they are made!

    Mmm… keren nih , saya suka dengan kutipan ini … hahahaaha

  51. #51 CY Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 8:25 From UNITED STATES

    how many times I had to told you, dont use that damned language. I dont understand man... :mrgreen:
    *jitak2 Roze*

  52. #52 hadi arr Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 8:28 From INDONESIA

    hahahaha, wah gitu yaaaa!!
    bagus-bagus sekali, ini game kan yaa?
    (sok ngerti.....)

  53. #53 Mihael "D.B." Ellinsworth Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 9:09 From INDONESIA

    Gya....karena aku tak punya PSP. :(

    *Main FFT versi PS*

  54. #54 saRe' Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 9:33 From INDONESIA

    @ grace: Caya kan macih kecil.. :oops:

    ........ :shock: pelis deh :lol:
    13 tahun???
    :lol:

  55. #55 Yang Mulia Kaisar Langit Sri Hucusuy Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 9:39 From MEXICO

    Kulit kau putih. Sayang kau tak cantik, kecuali jika kau tersenyum.

    Cara untuk membuat wajahmu cantik adalah: Banyak-banyak berbuat kebaikan pada anak kecil agar punya tampang baby face.
    Cuma itu satu-satunya cara agar kau menjadi cantik. karena kau pernah bersalah dengan menyakiti seorang anak kecil di dua kehidupan lalu.

    Di kehidupan lalu kau mendapatkan putihnya kulitmu dari beberapa dana/pemberian. tapi belum cukup karena sekarang kau terlahir tanpa kecantikan.

    Berbuat baiklah... agar kau menjadi cantik di kehidupan mendatang.

  56. #56 extremusmilitis Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 10:01 From INDONESIA

    Doa tanpa usaha itu sia-sia. Mimpi tanpa ke-ingin-an me-wujud-kan-nya hanya akan men-jadi sebuah mimpi semu
    ;)

  57. #57 Mihael "D.B." Ellinsworth Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 12:38 From INDONESIA

    @ Yang Mulia Kaisar Langit Sri Hucusuy

    Saya baru tahu kalau situ sekarang suka Blogwalking lagi. :-?

  58. #58 rozenesia Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 13:01 From INDONESIA

    @ cK: Nanti saya sindir lagi di entry baru. :lol: *dibunuh*

    @ Xaliber von Reginhild [1]: Hoalah, lama amat mainnya. :mrgreen:
    *pamer*
    Remaja pan masih labil dan menggebu-gebu. :roll:

    @ Xaliber von Reginhild [2]: Hohohoo...

    @ Praditya [1]: Kenapa dengan linggis hah!? Kenapaaa!!?? :evil:

    @ Xaliber von Reginhild [3]: *tertawa melecehkan akibat gagal hettrix*
    Hohohooo... Benar. Idealismenya sangat saya sukai, andai dengan idealisme itu dia bisa memainkan peran menjadi alat, namun di balik layar malah memperalat, entah bagaimana nasib Ivalice. ;)

    @ Uchiha Miyu: Anu caya ndak kecil... :oops:

    @ shinobigatakutmati: Main dan ujian harus sinkronisasi dengan bagik. :cool:

    @ fauzansigma: Game ndak cuma having fun mas. Kadang bisa mencerahkan. :cool:

    @ Praditya [2]: :lol:

    @ celo =3: *ketahuan kalau saya penggemar Wiegraf* 8O

    @ Xaliber von Reginhild [4]: Entah ya. :lol:

    @ dimasu: Tapi nasib Wiegraf yang tragis pantas dikasihani, walaupun dia antagonis. :?

    @ sigid: Manakanya, mas... Main. :P

    @ tukangkopi: Untuk idealismenya... 8O

    @ ekowanz: :lol:

    @ Zazi: Terjemahin dong. :cool:

    @ eMina: coretangunawan.wp.com udah dihapus. :P

    @ pink: Salam kenal juga. Saya maniak FFT doang. :lol:

    @ brainstorm: Hentai free, sorry. :mrgreen:

    @ annots: Tanggal 17 baru ujian lagi. :P

    @ sstkr: Movie? Ini di PSP. :?

    @ pututik: Salam kenal, silahkan. :D

    @ hildalexander: Tuh postingan terbaru bukan game.:P

    @ Nazieb: :lol:

    @ suprie [1]: Wiegraf suka bener mainin kata Stone sama Dream sih... :?

    @ suprie [2]: ...

    @ CY: What? This is simple english, sir. :P

    @ hadi arr: Kutipan dari game, pak. :mrgreen:

    @ Mihael "D.B." Ellinsworth [1]: Sama aja kok adegannya, cuma beberapa kata agak lain. Kalimat "thrall of the Church" misalnya, kalau versi PSOne itu "dog of the Church".

    @ saRe': Iya cayaaaang~ *peyuk2*

    @ Yang Mulia Kaisar Langit Sri Hucusuy: Terima kasih wahai Baginda. :D

    @ extremusmilitis: Dan usaha Wiegraf, ia menghalalkan apa saja, termasuk menjadi alat dari Gereja...

    @ Mihael "D.B." Ellinsworth [2]: Freedom of speech... ;)

  59. #59 Harry Friday, January 11th, 2008 at 5:50 From INDONESIA

    Mat Kenal! Blogger Baru Nih!
    Baca DUlu ahhh...

  60. #60 Harry Friday, January 11th, 2008 at 5:51 From INDONESIA

    Eh untuk konsol GBA Ada kagak?

  61. #61 rozenesia Friday, January 11th, 2008 at 5:54 From INDONESIA

    @ Harry [1]: Hohoo... Salam kenal.

    @ Harry [2]: Di GBA ada Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

  62. #62 hildalexander Monday, January 14th, 2008 at 4:40 From INDONESIA

    @rozenesia
    Kok diartikan secara harfiah seh "No More Game" Pleaseeee.....:P
    Please deh Oom....

  63. #63 rozenesia Monday, January 14th, 2008 at 6:16 From INDONESIA

    @ hildalexander: Lhaaaa... Hidupku buat anime dan game. :lol:

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