You, Me, and Agnosticism 16.12.07
By rozenesia posted in archive, quote. Sunday, Dec 16th, 2007 at 6:59 pm[after rozenesia accidentally creates a fool previous entry]
Reverend Phillip Shooter:
“Stop! Stop this please! Let us stop this mindless violence! Nicholas my son, you may not be a man of God, but surely you are a man of peace?”
Sergeant Nicholas Angel:
“I may not be a man of god reverend, but I know right, and I know wrong, and I have the good grace to know which is which.”
Haven’t clear yet? Okay, let me show you the scenes.
By the way, at NWA meeting Reverend Phillip Shooter just recognized (Sergeant Nicholas Angel is being introduced to the NWA for the first time and expresses his religious convictions to Reverend Phillip Shooter) Sergeant Nicholas Angel as an agnostic, not an atheist. So am I. :mrgreen:
Don’t ask about religion, please. I wonder why my friends from the class of International Relations department don’t know about agnosticism and the concept after all. For sure, maybe I’ll get black-and-white judgment. Guess why? 
“I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. I’ve seen too much religion in the eyes of murders. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is here–in head–and here–in heart–and what you decide to do every day will make you a good man…or not.”
Hospitaller of Jerusalem — Kingdom of Heaven
Uh-oh, it answers the question. This is my art of believing, eh? 
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- dialogues and screenshots ~ captured violently from Hot Fuzz movie.
- quote ~ taken from Kingdom of Heaven movie.
- entry’s title ~ modified brutally from You, Me, and Dupree movie.
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
lha…???
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
pertamaxxx…???
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
bro… do you ever read this …???
it’s all I can say for now… you know.,.. I hate this language… I am blacksmith :lol:
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
lha…??? lha…???
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
leave out all the rest… :lol:
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From asruldinazis.wordpress.com
sip… mantap lah…
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From nieznaniez.wordpress.com
hmm, ya.
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From deathlock.wordpress.com
That sergeant must have killed someone, for that reverend speak in a manner like that. :?
…or he’s going to kill that old man?
*ngomong ngga jelas*
With my dizzy head and sleepy eyes, I cannot get what you mean here but a problem about agnosticism…
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From deathlock.wordpress.com
*a problem with agnosticism…
Ralat.
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From deathlock.wordpress.com
Terjemahan bebas Indonesianya.
Hettrix.
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
The real is… he wanna save that old hag from teh eternal flame… CMIIW
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From praditya.net
Wah telat…
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3 [1]: What?
@ celo =3 [2]: Rite, fella.
@ celo =3 [3]: Yarp, but it’s so ridiculous if they ALL do not know anything.
@ celo =3 [4]: Yes?
@ celo =3 [5]: Amen.
@ aRuL: Yarp. :mrgreen:
@ niez mo ujian: Yes, what? :lol:
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [1]: Please read wikipedia page, sir.
Eh, watch the movie!! 8O
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [2]: Roger. :mrgreen:
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [3]: ….
@ celo =3 [6]: Is that so, dude?
@ Praditya: Be quick, I’m famous… :cool:
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
nay.. you miss the point bro… no one has been a bookworm like you… they like shoping and do others cool stuff… but please… knowing about religions…??? it’s sucks..
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3: Tsk… All I can say is why ALL of them like shopping and do other things… :roll: (I didn’t want to tell ALL of them don’t know, but I haven’t meet someone that stand well with agnosticism)
…but, my first sentence isn’t the fact after all. I know someone from C class and he said that he ever heard about agnosticism. But I’m not sure with his concept.
This isn’t about ALL and no one, I like my flying words. :lol:
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
okay… you use ALL… you’re just teasing me or something…??? :? yeah… in my point of view… at this age… it’s my time to pick a girl and make her happy… and I don’t think that a religions conversations can make her happy… I’m just a boy… and boy at my ages prefer to spend their money with teens’ stuff and that isn’t a religions…
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3: I used ALL for nothing. :lol:
By the way, human is plural. And I am sore that I am not only one…agnostic at my department.
I this moment, it will be OoT sooner.
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
I don’t think it’s gonna be OoT… we talk about you, me and agnosticsm rite :lol:
yes maybe you’re not the only one… honstly… I’m a litle bit agnostic… but can you just open your eyes…??? can’t you see that people at our ages know nothing about agnosticsm… thei have something important thing to think than agnosticsm…. in this age.. much people thinks that religion is a God wishes… we just do it… not think why we must do it… because it’s a God wish…
All hail God….
sorry for my lack grammar…
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3: Anytime~
Sooner or later.
In Stages of Faith (by James Fowler) we’re in 3rd stage, arising in adolescence, called Synthetic-conventional faith. It is a stage characterized by conformity, where one finds one’s identity by aligning oneself with a certain perspective, and lives directly through this perception with little opportunity to reflect on it critically.
But not all of teens are in 3rd stage. A few of them are in 4th stage, called Individualistic-reflective faith. A stage of angst and struggle, in which one must face difficult questions regarding identity and belief. So am I.
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
*blow up in the second*
rrrr…. that you said that you was one step higher than any boys…??? then, why you keep pursuing other boys to know what agnosticsm is… comon bro… everything has their own time… they’ll know what agnosticsm is… but it’s not now… In stages of faith (by James Fowler) we should at the 3rd stage… thay find their identity at this stage… and that isn’t agnosticsm but consumerism…. don’t blame other boys just because you’re one step higher than them….
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From qzink666.wordpress.com
*berasa tinggal di Inggris*
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ Celo =3: Nope. This is not step, this is stage.
There’s no higher or lower. Because this is like a cycles. As the result of an research, 50% of adults stuck at this stage and become believers, ’till the end of their time.
Those that pass 4th stage usually do so (angst and struggle) in their mid-thirties to early forties.
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ qzink666: Is that so? :?
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
my mistakes then… I beg your parden miss… *it’s beter to surender if you’re sleepy than using that kind of magic words => fucking agnostic, fucking atheis, burn’em down*
yeah… I don’t think so…. you can jump from the first stage to the last… there must be some kind of process there… and believe… not all the boys at our age… think the way you thinking… I think, there’s so many important thing to think than think about agnosticsm…. pay the electricity bill may be
*I’m sorry I can’t surender so easilly, because if I do that, the disscuss will end then it just a trashcan*
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
@qzink666…. sorry, I think we speak french here…. :?
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3 [1]: Te~Hee~ 1st to the 6th? 8O
It is impossible, for me, not to visualize terms when reading the progression from 3rd to 6th. In 3rd, for instance, the ego is dominan. The majority of the population walks on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
@ celo =3: I wanna french fries so badly… :cry:
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From fertobhades.wordpress.com
it’s so familiar….
*retrieve my memory*
*rehearsal*
*oh, i found it*
*eureka*
but it’s my own secret, my dear…!!!
:mrgreen:
*conversation with the demon in my head*
*confused*
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ Pyrrho: :?
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From
nay… ahh I get it… in 3rd stage the ego is dominan… and people at your age… usually is in the 3rd stage right…???
*smiling*
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ celo =3 *fucking conections*: Yarp.
Huh!? What’s wrong with you? 8O
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From bachtiar.wordpress.com
gak ada terjemahanya ya ? :lol:
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From mbelgedez.wordpress.com
Siyall….
I’m late.
But, it’s nice Post Rozen…
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From onigiritahukentangkolbayammawarhah.wordpress.com
buset :shock:
inggris semua. nggak mengerti. otak saya blank!
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From blog.myladokutu.org
tarmax mardun
omong omong??
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From chikastuff.wordpress.com
is it about agnosticism, eh?
*pusing*
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From almascatie.wordpress.com
this about believing? love? hate? or hmmmmmmm
or..or…. orari aja dah
:lol:
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From danalingga.wordpress.com
i’m religous enough, i think. So not agnotism man.
*ngelap keringat*
**kok pada posting linggis ya?**
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From findmyishtar.blogspot.com
[...]What God desires is here–in head–and here–in heart–and what you decide to do every day will make you a good man…or not[...]
quote yang pas banget..tapi kita negara beragama..
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From z3.invisionfree.com/RaveIndo/index.php?act=idx
bwlajar inggris napa bang?
btw Gun, lo yakin kg diri lo dah ad di Inital D 4th Stage? :lol:
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From caplang.wordpress.com
agnostik apa siy?
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From rosenqueencompany.wordpress.com
Ane kok ndak paham, ya? :?
(apa karena sedang pilek, otak ga jalan? :? )
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From annots.wordpress.com
Ditunggu terjemahannya :lol:
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From blogirang.wordpress.com
hmmm…I know more a lot about the what of the where I go to when someone to be fool like me…
jahhh…….
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From unclegoop.wordpress.com
OOT :
atas saya ini ngomong apa?? :lol:
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From sawali.wordpress.com
anything this motif, I didn’t the action by force and also enforcing of certain doctrine, and surely in problem of religion and belief : mrgreen:
*sorry banget, bhs linggis saya belepotam, hehehehehe
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From myresource.wordpress.com
AH ITU bom ya yang dibadannya….
yasalam pengen mati…
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From pilihan.wordpress.com
Im not familiar with English, so next time post it in Indonesia. Or, I will be OOT, u got me?? :lol:
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From pilihan.wordpress.com
after reading English I always got headache, so next time.. u know what I mean… got me??? :mrgreen:
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From pilihan.wordpress.com
hetrixxx is better than headache… I bet u know that :lol:
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From dobelden.wordpress.com
you post this for adsense??
haha…. peace men
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From unclegoop.wordpress.com
Ah maaf, ya hoek, saya malah ngakak membaca komennya
ops:
Kamuh, memang menggirangkan
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ bacteria: None, sir.
@ mbelgedez: Thanks.
@ Onigiri Tahu Kentang Kol Bayam Mawar (hah?): Oh yeah? Simple english, eh.
@ ladokutu: Humnn… Sorry, I don’t get your point, sir.
@ cK: Rire, sista~
@ almascatie: Plase take a look at comment above, sir.
@ danalingga: I’ll not interrupt your choice, sir.
@ stey: God isn’t about religion at all. Atheist isn’t same as irreligious.
@ Luce: I don’t know, but I think so, brother… :lol:
@ caplang™: Click… Click… Click… :evil:
@ Kopral Geddoe: What the heaven!? 8O
Impossible for you, brother!!! I don’t believe thiss!!!
@ annots: Surely you won’t get it. :lol:
@ Hoek Soegirang: Heee…? I don’t get the point, achoooo… :lol:
@ Goop: Whatever… :lol:
@ Sawali Tuhusetya: *confused* Eh, I think belief is a part of free will in Christianity, sir.
@ Moerz: No, sir. You’re wrong. :lol:
Just watch the movie.
@ CY [1]: Yeaaa…
@ CY [2]: Oookaaayyy…
@ CY [3]: Cis… :evil:
@ dobelden: Nope.
@ goop: Same here, sir. :lol:
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From junarto.wordpress.com
*so tau mode on
Can you confirm my understanding.
Agnosticism followers suggest there is no strong evidence that God exists though they do not completely reject the existence of God. So you just postpone your decission, right? On the other hand, you deem that the possiblity of God’s existence is so little. Thus, His existence is not meaningful enough to be counted on as considerations. It means, you throw out God as the atheism followers do. Am I right?
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From caplang.wordpress.com
artinya? :lol:
jadi inget status ym-nya hehehe
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ Junarto: Agnosticism can be divided into several categories, sir. I wrote in my agnosticism side, agnostic-theism or religious agnosticism. I don’t claim to know existence of God (or Gods), but still believe in such an existence.
@ caplang™: Hmnn… Who? :?
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From
Salam Kenal
Kunjungi blog saya juga
di : http://zulfikars.wordpress.com
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ Muhammad Zulfikar: Nice to know you, sir.
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From indiegal.wordpress.com
*serasa tinggal di Inggris… masa abad pertengahan*
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From meusworld.wordpress.com
Quote yg hbt! ><
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ indiegal: Howeee…? Dark Age? :lol:
@ Uchiha Miyu: Which one? :?
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From deking.wordpress.com
Inggris semua?
*pingsan*
Sebenarnya yang salah itu apa/siapa ya?
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From aquamaiden.wordpress.com
Hyaduh… busyet dah. Nggak ngerti, materi kali ini terlalu berat untuk otak… :shock:
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From tukangkopi.wordpress.com
Ho..ho…!gw takut salah komen. jadi absen aja.. :mrgreen:
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From tehsore.wordpress.com
“Religion and I don’t mix, I’m afraid”
quoted from Balthier-FFT
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From isinmawa.wordpress.com
why ?
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From isinmawa.wordpress.com
sebetulnya saya baca judulnya saja.
inggris..inggris…
*pergi jalan -jalan*
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From isinmawa.wordpress.com
sebelum pergi, saya hetrik dulu deh 8)
*kabur ke ujung berung sebelum dihajar*
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From andibagus.com
hmm…
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From andibagus.com
ra ngerti kuwi filem utawa novel aku..
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From steax.wordpress.com
Seriously, I can just imagine the old guy pulling out dual handguns and firing rapidly while somersaulting. Then it goes into slow-mo bullet time.
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ deKing yang biasa2 saja: Simply, sir.
What/who? :roll:
“the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God”
@ Cynanthia: As you wish, milady.
@ tukangkopi: It’s okay, sir.
@ Lemon S. Sile: Balthier? Who?
FFTA? FFT TWotL?
@ eMina [1]: Please take a look at Hospitaller’s quote.
@ eMina [2]: I don’t mind. :mrgreen:
@ eMina [3]: …
@ andi bagus [1]: Yes?
@ andi bagus [2]: This isn’t about movie after all, sir.
@ steax: N-nearly…!!! 8O
Reverend Phillip Shooter: Stop! Stop this please! Let us stop this mindless violence! Nicholas my son, you may not be a man of God, but surely you are a man of peace?
Sergeant Nicholas Angel: I may not be a man of god reverend, but I know right, and I know wrong, and I have the good grace to know which is which.
Reverend Phillip Shooter: [Dismissive] Oh – fuck off grasshopper! [Produces two pistols from his robe sleeves and shoots Nicholas]
Officer Danny Butterman: NO! [Raises his shotgun and shoots Reverend Shooter]
Reverend Phillip Shooter: [In shock and pain] Jesus Christ!
Officer Danny Butterman: [Rushing over to Nicholas] NICHOLAS! [Nicholas looks up at him] I thought you was a goner!
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From sayap.wordpress.com
Gak tahu musti comment apa kalo ngomongin agama… tapi ide tulisannya bagus bagus makanya setiap hari mampir kesini.
-Ade-
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From manusia.wordpress.com
Darn, why the heck is everybody speak english? :???:
Pardon me, but I don’t know much ’bout agnosticism.
In fact, usually don’t pay too much attention to another man’s faith.
Since I got no clear understanding with this “You, Me, and Agnosticism” post.
Would you be please explain me with brief, what this post exactly trying to say.
In Bahasa Indonesia please ….. :grin:
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From manusia.wordpress.com
Can I make a hattrick in english?
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From manusia.wordpress.com
Yeah, it’s a hattrick … :mrgreen:
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ Sayap KU: So on. Thanks. :mrgreen:
@ sigid [1]: Complain to my lecture, sir. She asked me. :roll:
Hohohohoo… Love this~
Heheheeeee… I just want to tell about me, belief, and my way of life to my friends (in may department) and my lecture after a long long long discussion in English class (about Politic & Religion) a few days ago.
Hmnnn… Maybe I can say this entry is a sequel of this. :mrgreen:
@ sigid [2]: …
@ sigid [2]: :evil:
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From shinobigatakutmati.wordpress.com
inggris……. maknanya apa ya…. o_O?
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From ekowanz.com
damn udah komen 78…aq telat
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From download.benbego.com
keren juga tuh scenenya. nyolong dimana?
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From qzink666.wordpress.com
Huh, Sok british.. :evil:
*muntah*
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From extremusmilitis.wordpress.com
Did the agnosticism kill you?. I thought it should not. So believe what you believe. And everything will be allright
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From
i am what i am now, and you what you’re now
just leave it as it be…
lalala semoga kosa katanya benar
hahaha
itu screen dari film hot fuzz, film mbanyol dari pemeran shaun of the dead kan? hahaha emang kas british
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From celotehsaya3.wordpress.com
*maksa qzink ngejilatin lagi muntahannya sendiri*
it’s God wishes…
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From santribuntet.wordpress.com
sayangnya gak begitu faseh melafalkannya apalagi mengartikannya.. duuh ketinggalan jauhhhh
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From tehsore.wordpress.com
@Roze:
Balthier dari FFXII, tapi di tWotL muncul sebagai playable cameo. Berguna banget tuch! Mustadio+Thief. Anehny lagi…nama keluarga/belakang mereka sama lho. :lol:
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From qzink666.wordpress.com
an absence of disaster and accident, the reassuring knowledge that no one in the community has anything against us, that the power above or below can dominate or hinder us, and that in Moslem/Christ a social and a cosmich peace will be achieved.
Nyambung gak nyambung yg penting ikut wanchicho..
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From smellsliketeenspirit.wordpress.com
:lol:
Dan Lennon pun puas menciptakan lagu Imagine :mrgreen:
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com
@ shinobigatakutmati: Guess what? :lol:
@ ekowanz: So on, milord.
@ benbego: Read the credits, milord.
@ qzink666 [1]: I beg your pardon? :lol:
@ extremusmilitis: Amen.
@ orang lewat: That’s right, fella.
@ celo =3: Amen.
@ kurtubi: So on, milord.
@ Lemon S. Sile: cis… FFT tWotL… Damn you PSP!! :evil:
@ qzink666 [2]: Moslem and Christian? :?
I beg your pardon, sir?
@ alex: F**king dead! :mrgreen:
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From rozenesia.wordpress.com/2007/12/28/i-have-lost-my-religion
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